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A Funny Thing Happened On My Way To The Polyamory Movie

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This week, I attended Clarisse Thorn’s Sex+++ Film Series at Hull House in Chicago.  This feature was a film on polyamory, entitled: When Two Won’t Do.  The film is a documentary created by two people exploring polyamory for themselves.  There was a discussion group afterward.  The response to this film series has been overwhelming and Tuesday was no exception, with upwards of 70 people crammed into a room that expected maybe 40.

I do not practice “poly” and am largely ignorant of it.  My initial brief exposure to the subject so far, was when my wife asked me what I thought about it.  She attends a lot of Sc-Fi / Fantasy events and poly is well rooted in those communities.  My initial reaction was panic!  I thought my wife had met someone or that I was no good in bed or some tragedy…that centered around me.  (Typical Aries male response, I must confess) Since then, I have had a great deal more adult and measured conversations with my wife.  It turns out, she really wanted to only know my opinion on the topic and was inviting me into a real conversation.  Oops.

Since those conversations, I have become an ally for communities that focus on Sex, Gender & Body (SGB) issues. I am launching a new blog to support SGB communities and individuals and poly is one of those communities.  I am using that blog to highlight our shared humanity across SGB identities that differentiate one person from another.  In order for me to fully appreciate the film and the discussion afterward, I needed to identify and suspend my prejudices and preconceptions.

My initial thoughts about poly were not kind.  I thought that it was some scam that horny husbands talked their wives into doing, so they could get sex from strangers.  It assumed that it was a manipulation.  Or, I thought it might be some sort of contrived alternate lifestyle for people that have memorized the Klingon alphabet.  These are really negative views and as I rode over to the Hull House, I thought back to all the people from my childhood that I may have picked up these judgments.  Did I pick them up as an adult?  Where from? There have been so many sexually inhibited, uptight judgmental adults around me since childhood, there is no telling where I got all my negative stereotypes from.  As I cataloged all my impulsive forms of disapproval, I became acutely aware of how little I had thought these viewpoints out and how strong and extreme they were.

I thought to myself that this would be a perfect opportunity to make up my own mind on the matter of polyamory.  So I entered the room in the frame of mind that I don’t know jack and I would simply listen for the shared humanity between the filmmakers, the audience and myself.

The film itself was a pretty honest depiction of this couple’s inquiry.  The woman, Maureen wanted to love multiple men and sought out relationships with some.  Her boyfriend David was not initially a fan, but wanted to be with her.  They grabbed a camera and headed off on tours to Maureen’s boyfriends, to a Swingers’ Convention in Vegas, to a poly convention in Vermont or New Hampshire or something.  The also visited some established poly families on the west coast.  The film was low budget, but they did take a ‘warts & all’ approach to the content.  They showed uncomfortable moments along with all the easy and reassuring ones.

In watching this film, I learned a great deal about Maureen & David’s personal experiences with poly.  I got the sense that it holds all things that a two person love holds: sex, intimacy, friendship, conflict, sadness, anger, anxiety, etc.  Polyamory is no escape from any human emotion or dilemma.  I can’t say that even brings out more of those emotions and situations.  However, it does spread those experience out across multiple faces and perhaps that is the appeal for some.  I recommend watching this film, as I did if only for the opportunity to reach your own conclusions on something.

The discussion group afterward was even more rewarding than the film.

First off, Clarisse was an amazing facilitator.  She kept track of people who wished to speak and made sure they got their opportunity with the precision of a symphonic conductor.  I can honestly say that no conversation or discussion I’ve ever been part of was as thoughtful and attentive.  Everyone there probably felt as I did, that she was there for them specifically.  She sat at the front of the room, stroking her hair and noticing everything.

The discussion group consisted of people active in the poly community, swingers, gay, lesbian, straight, white, asian, black, hispanic – and one 48 y/o white guy whose wife wonders what she’s got to do for him to listen to her.  People asked all sorts of questions, made observations from inside and out of the poly community.  I strongly urge anyone reading this to make their way to one of these film nights.  Here are a few impressions that I was left with, in no particular order or relevance – save the last one.

One man who is active in poly for years pointed out a conflict in the film where a married, poly couple had two definitions of poly.  The wife wanted many sexual partners and one love partner, while her husband wanted many love partners.  This brought them much conflict.

One woman talked about how she spent years figuring out how to meet poly’s without going to Sci-Fi & Fantasy conventions.  She’s into sports & mainstream social activities where poly is not common.

One man stated that poly forces people to become skillful in expressing their feelings and thoughts.  With the constant change of partners in poly, an argument does not have days, weeks or years to get resolved.  Partners change and the current raptures and crises will be replaced by new ones.  And so on, and so on…

One man kept asking about constricting demands from partners while engaging in polyamory.  He kept asking the same question and it seemed to me that he might have an issue with being told what to do.  This conversation did lead to several people describing what poly is to them, which ultimately got us to the point that poly is different for each and every person that practices it.  If someone is going to engage in polyamory successfully, he/she must articulate what poly means to them.  Then, they must communicate that to everyone they are involved with.  My takeaway from the discussion he started is similar to a lesson my daughter recently learned.  Namely: “nobody is the boss of you, but if you are not meeting their needs, they may not choose to play with you”.

The filmmakers did not like swinging and that led to an enlightening conversation among the group about the differences between swinging and polyamory.  There are some extreme examples of either, but to my perspective there seemed to be a lot of middle ground that both terms seemed to describe.  My take is that people engaging in poly or swinging are going to define themselves in terms that are unique to them, and that the term poly or swinging will mean something different to everyone.

Others simply shared their definition of some aspect of poly as they live it.  One man offered his view in a sort of reductionist philosophy that I liked listening to.  He suggested that people engaged in dating multiple partners at a time, are engaged in a ‘street poly’.

Finally, the last speaker was a woman who described how she had been living a poly life for years before the term even came around.  The way she described the community is like it was the most natural thing in the world for her.  It was not about her choosing poly, it was about poly giving a name and shared language to whom she already was.  I saw, in her declaration that Polyamory is not always a chosen lifestyle, but is also a natural expression of self – for some.

So, after watching the film and listening to the discussion group, I came to my own personal judgment of Polyamory.  It is not bad, not good, not better and not worse.  Poly is just more, and for some that is the right thing.

-gadfly

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12 Comments on “A Funny Thing Happened On My Way To The Polyamory Movie”

  1. #1 nationalgadfly (nationalgadfly) nationalgadfly (nationalgadfly)
    on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 23:20

    @PaisleyRaven thanks for the RT! check out my last post: http://is.gd/lCn3 I would love to hear your response.

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  2. #2 nationalgadfly (nationalgadfly) nationalgadfly (nationalgadfly)
    on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 23:20

    New blog post: A Funny Thing Happened On My Way To The Polyamory Movie http://tinyurl.com/bpxtkd

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  3. #3 Clarisse Clarisse
    on Mar 2nd, 2009 at 01:45

    Tee hee … “stroking her hair and noticing everything” ….

    Nice post.  You did a much better job of summarizing the actual discussion than I ever do.  I always take a long time framing my personal critiques in my followup blog posts to these films, rather than describing what other people said … maybe that’s a weakness!

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  4. #4 justjss justjss
    on Mar 2nd, 2009 at 07:01

    So … are these things you think you might have to try, in order to understand them better? Or is it intellectual voyeurism?

    Not knocking it, either way. Just curious.

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  5. #5 gadfly gadfly
    on Mar 2nd, 2009 at 09:41

    justjss,

    I can only answer for myself.  I don’t know if I have to try polyamory to understand it.  Would you ask me about being a voyeur if my article was about Olympic swimming and the lives of athletes?

    -gadfly

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  6. #6 justjss justjss
    on Mar 2nd, 2009 at 14:26

    No I wouldn’t … but I might well ask you what you know about swimming, what your experience is.

    I was just curious, as I said … no judgment implied.  I’ve had people ask me such things, regarding what I write about. It’s been suggested to *me,* in fact, that there are sexual activities I shouldn’t write about unless I’ve tried them. And I haven’t agreed, so far.

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  7. #7 anonymous anonymous
    on Mar 2nd, 2009 at 18:25

    I saw this post over at the Great Orange Satan and noted that it provoked a pretty heated debate. I didn’t want to respond there, as I’m not confident in my anonymity, but I had a few things to say.
    I’ve seen the film and think it’s a pretty good examination of the subject. What I see as best about the poly movement is the way it encourages everyone to think outside the box and arrive at their own understanding of what it means to be in a relationship, as opposed to blindly and unthinkingly accepting monogamy as the only choice.
    At the same time, I think the poly movement gets overly focused on separating itself from other approaches to alternative sexuality. There’s a bit of a tendency toward self-righteousness.
    A few things disturbed me about the discussion on kos: most importantly, too few of the posters recognized sexual/relational freedom’s political dimension. Some posters had idiotic, knee-jerk reactions, but no one on either side seemed versed in the literature. There are quite a few books on the subject, but I’ll name just one: Opening Up: A Guide to Creating and Sustaining Open Relationships by Tristan Taormino. If you’re interested in exploring polyamory or just understanding it better, this book is a great place to start.

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  8. #8 gadfly gadfly
    on Mar 2nd, 2009 at 19:19

    anonymous,

    Thanks for reading the post and wandering over here to respond.  The response at DKos was insulting from several people and I quite agree that some commenters missed the political aspects of personal freedom.  The hang-ups that people have around sex have not been challenged or embraced in open conversation…at least in the US.

    I agree with you that the process of choosing one’s sexuality for ones self is not encouraged or supported.  I will look at the book you recommend and if you are in Chicago, please find a way to one of Clarisse’s film nights.  You will be glad that you did.

    -gadfly

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  9. #9 Esmaa Self Esmaa Self
    on Mar 2nd, 2009 at 19:51

    Justjss-

    I hope you never agree with those who think a writer must be or have been the things she writes about. Sometimes the distance of not being is what is required to see a thing in perspective.

    Cheers!

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  10. #10 justjss justjss
    on Mar 3rd, 2009 at 09:11

    Esmaa: As you say — “Sometimes.” For example … I have considered doing a book about the past, present and future of nuclear fusion research. The most daunting thing about the project would be getting my own knowledge to a level where I could intelligently converse with the people who could best help me. ;-)

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  11. #11 Esmaa Self Esmaa Self
    on Mar 3rd, 2009 at 12:08

    Quite.  :D I was thinking about the ongoing conversations amongst writers in which the idea is floated that a man cannot write from a woman’s perspective and an Anglo cannot write from an American Indian perspective. Bah. Non-fiction is more restrictive in this way.

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    on Mar 28th, 2009 at 14:57

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